The problem is that the majority of people that dispute German disc developments have never heard of these largely classified devices. Ignorance does not make them myths.
Granted, Rudolf Lusar, Renato Vesco, Justo Miranda, and Ernst Zündel have made some grievous errors in telling the story of German disc aircraft development during WW2; however, the disc development programs did exist and there is more than adequate proof of them..
The US 415th NFS encountered German disc weapons launched from below their aircraft over German-held territory which interfered with the aircraft's prop engines. Official photographs and "Foo Fighter" documentation of these German weapons exist and are available to the public despite the USAAF never explaining what that weapon was. Other official US Army and AAF Technical Intelligence Reports from 1945 list similar strange flight craft encountered over the Reich in the last year of the war.
There is also the problem of known German varied disc and circular aircraft programs that can be properly identified which include Focke's Fw Rochen patent, Sack's AS-6 V-1, Epps Omega Diskus test models, Schauberger's Repulsin discoid motors, and Schwenteit Elektrische Luft Turbine und Raumschiff patent postwar that is credited as a Schriever/Miethe disc design from WW2 (the mystery V-7). All this evidence is totally known and there is an abundance of photographic and historic evidence about . There is the German evidence as well from Luftwaffe Sonderbüro 13 which was tasked with covering up civilian and military sightings of strange craft over the Reich. On September 29, 1944 a Me-262 pilot on a test run spotted the Andromeda Gerãt cylindrical Raumschiff traveling at 1,200 mph. His report to Sonderbüro 13 is official and on file (although the jet pilot had no idea what the unmarked 348 foot long object was). Sonderbüro 13 covered it up as an unknown Allied craft. Robert J. Lee's book "Fascinating Relics of the Third Reich" tells of the capture of one of the huge cylindrical Raumschiff Andromeda Gerãts by the US Army and confirmed it in an interview of "The German Cylindrical UFO".
British BIOS Reports acknowledge German disc aircraft development as well as Hans Coler's gravitic battery - the Magnetstromapparat (which the SS turned into an electricity converter).
Several of the German engineers and scientists hold postwar disc patents in both Germany and the US: Heinrich Focke, Heinrich Fleissner, Josef Andreas Epp, Viktor Schauberger, Hermann Klaas, Bruno Schwenteit (for Miethe-Schriever), Henri Coanda. If there were no discs how could different engineers, non-related, apply for disc patents postwar as soon as it was permissible by the Allies? And why the sudden drive by the US, Britain, Canada, and the USSR for this specific type of design?
There is evidence of a race to build these type craft in AVRO Canada's disc designs (16 of them) and US disc designs now being declassified by Lockheed, Northrop, and NASA. The publicly displayed Avrocar VZ-9 was a ploy as that craft is not a true flight disc but a GETOL (Ground Effect Take Off and Landing) hovering Jeep that was supposed to be armed with a rear deck bazooka or recoilless gun. It was deliberately meant to fail and to be photographed parked outside on purpose to deceive the Soviets.
Operation Bluebook (an official US document) states that (para-phrasing) only "certain developments of the Third Reich in the closing months of WW2 come close to the performance of the UFOs they were investigating". This makes no sense at all unless they are referring to German disc aircraft. A Me-262 or even the Sãnger Hypersonic Bomber could in no waymatch the performance of unknown disc craft that could accelerate to Mach 10, make a law-of-physics-defying turn that would kill a human pilot, and then stop in mid-air.
The USAF had knowledge of the German discs because they held them at Wright Patterson AB before transferring them to MacDill AB for scrapping. So they were completely correct with their statement. USAF reporters for the USAF's in-house magazine in the 1960s visited MacDill and gained unauthorized access to the scrap yard for an article on prototype aircraft. Their cameras and film were seized after they saw 4 German discs in the scrap yard. The next month's issue of the USAF magazine was cancelled. The reporters' story is online and in print. Their eyewitness testimony and account is entirely valid - so much in fact that MacDill had to re-transfer the discs back to storage at Wright Patterson. Most people who know about such craft believe the German discs are still held there.
Area 51 was always a black aircraft program (SAP = Special Aircraft Project) base that hosted the U-2, SR-71, stealth demonstrators, F-117, B-2, etc. Maybe the holding bays in S-4 never housed any alien reverse-engineered craft but only German captured EMG discs built by the SS Technical Branch Unit E-IV. That is why they do not show up with the other manufacturers because they were SS property (of Thule and Vril Gesellschaft origin) not under RLM control at all. Reich Armaments Minister Albert Speer himself in his book "Infiltration" describes his being blocked by Himmler and the SS organization from investigating SS separate military manufacturing facilities, materials accumulated, and projects - including the persistent rumors of the "Flying Tops" and reported of SS requirements made to him for more slave labor needed for such secret projects late war
Vril is confirmed by the 1937 purchase of the fallow land around Arado-Brandenburg for "flight testing". Flight testing of what if no discs existed? Photographic evidence exists for the JFM (Jenseitsflugmachine), the RFZ (Rundflugzeugmachine) series, Haunebu and Vril models 1 Jãger, 7 Geist, 8 Odin, and 9 Abjãger.. BMW's wartime Prague facility is known and eyewitness testimony of Georg Klein verifies the Flügelrads as well as Schriever's Flugkreisel on site. All were disc fans with BMW Flügelrads more jet auto-gyro than pure flight disc.
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German UFOs
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Most people will only know RLM (German Air Ministry) designations and have no clue that the SS had its very own war production capability. It had its own army (the Waffen SS), own religion (Black Sun Order), and own scientific branch (Entwicklungsstelle IV/V). If Albert Speer as Armaments Minister could not gain access to Himmler's weapons programs there is little wonder that the disc craft and other odd machines are thought of as hoaxes of Neo-Nazis and Fourth Reich advocates. But once the individual discs are investigated and patents emerge, photos, documentation, and Allied reports that are both declassified and still classified... then one begins to understand where the entire postwar UFO/Black Project Aircraft started from - the Reich's arsenal of the SS. "Black Projects" are actually SAPs (Special Access Programs)! Fear of real truth vs. official history written by the victorious Allies makes many people want to deny these craft and even modern sightings of strange craft that amazingly stick close to military bases.
