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We know from eyewitness accounts and recovered records that the German military machine was making great strides in experimental research. So successful in pioneering rocketry were they, that immediately after the war tons of material plus hundreds of scientists were siphoned off by the allies -- both east and west.


Since the 1950s there were many claims about alleged German developments of revolutionary saucer-shaped crafts able to fly with incredible performances, from a sort of "supersonic helicopter" to hard-to-believe interstellar spaceships.

 

These crafts were believed the same "flying saucers" (later named UFOs) sighted by many people all around the world since 1947. According to the many would-be "inventors" and enthusiasts of this theory, UFOs would not be of extraterrestrial origin but man-made. According to the many would-be "inventors" and enthusiasts of this theory, UFOs would not be of extraterrestrial origin but man-made.


The "German saucers" are often known also as the "V-7 legend": this comes from a reportedly circular aircraft named "V-7" that is claimed to have flown in Prague on February 14, 1945.


The conventional view of history is that, while the Germans possessed some remarkable and deadly weapons such as the V-l, the V-2 and the jet-engined Messerschmitt ME-262 fighter, their technological innovations did not extend much further than that. Indeed, serious historians treat claims of fantastic advances in Nazi technology with the utmost disdain.

 

The problem is that the majority of people that dispute German disc developments have never heard of these largely classified devices. Ignorance does not make them myths.

 

Granted,  Rudolf Lusar, Renato Vesco, Justo Miranda, and Ernst Zündel have made some grievous errors in telling the story of German disc aircraft development during WW2; however, the disc development programs did exist and there is more than adequate proof of them..

 

 


   

 

How the V-7-Legend arose



The so-called "Nazi UFOs" are the alleged saucer-shaped crafts designed, built and flown in the last phases of WWII by the Germans. There are many legends and rumours about such "Nazi UFOs", starting from the early spring of 1950. The first stories appeared in Italy by the noted turbine expert Giuseppe Belluzzo, published in the Italian daily "Il Giornale d'Italia" of March 24-25, 1950, and then by the self-proclaimed saucer inventor Rudolf Schriever in the German magazine "Der Spiegel" of March 31, 1950. There is no real historic evidence of the existence of such crafts.

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Real and Hoax German Disc Types


The dominant explanation for the origin of UFOs is the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (ETH). Other hypotheses have been proposed as supplementary to ETH, among them the so-called "Nazi Hypothesis". Witness testimony, photographs, and purported plans exist to suggest that some Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) may have originated in pre-1946 Germany.

"E.T. MYTH" VS. the "NAZI UFO LEGEND

This evidence has been downplayed for a number of reasons. An obvious factor is that documents and witness testimony tend to be in a foreign language. The universal revulsion felt for the Nazi regime and its occult origins is another factor. Then, too, some of the data seem to have been filtered through neo-Nazi sources.

Most difficult for some, perhaps, is that the implicitly underlying physics for these craft must have been concealed from most of us for 60 years or more. However, the ETH involves a similar element of concealment, if only for a shorter duration.

 

There is no question that the Germans produced a number of scientific breakthroughs in their quest for war technology during World War II. The V-1 buzz bombs - a forerunner of today's cruise missiles - and the V-2 rockets that terrorized London are two of the most famous examples, along with the Messerschmitt 262, the world's first operational jet fighter.

There is no question that the Germans were experimenting with a wide variety of innovative aircraft and propulsion systems toward the end of the war. There is little doubt that they at least contemplated building a flying saucer. There are tantalizing bits of evidence that Nazi Germany indeed added a flying disc to its inventory of secret weapons.


In retrospect, Americans should have correlated the WW II and post-war sightings of flying spheres, saucers, and cylinders to the wondrous technology of National Socialist Germany. It is an understatement to say that our government has deliberately misled us on the UFO question.

Rumors have persisted for decades that German forces continued to wage a secret war after May 1945, using exotic technology - especially UFO based psychological warfare.

In 1952, CIA director Walter B. Smith wrote, in a now declassified memorandum, to the director of the Psychological Strategy Board:

I am today transmitting to the National Security Council a proposal (TAB A) in which it is concluded that the problems connected with unidentified flying objects appear to have implications for psychological warfare as well as for intelligence and operations.

He went on to write in section 3 of the same memo:

I suggest that we discuss at an early board meeting the possible offensive or defensive utilization of these phenomena for psychological warfare purposes.


the Nazis did have UFOs during WWII......

The fact that the Germans were developing advanced technologies during the end of the war is a matter of public record.  As Sir Roy Feddon, Chief of the Technical Mission to Germany for the Ministry of Aircraft Production stated in 1945: 

I  have seen enough of their designs and production plans to realise that if they (the Germans) had managed to prolong the war some months longer, we would have been confronted with a set of entirely new and deadly developments in air warfare.

Captain Ruppelt, Chief of the US Air Force Project Bluebook added in 1956:

When WWII ended, the Germans had several radical types of aircraft and guided missiles under development. The majority were in the most preliminary stages, but they were the only known craft that could even approach the performance of objects reported to UFO observers…

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MYTH OR REALITY?

The reality of the "Nazi UFOs" has been highly controversial. No really hard historical evidence about the undisputable existence of such advanced technology has been presented so far.

There are some clues and many fascinating rumours that have been creating a real myth about the so-called "Nazi UFOs".

Latest developments of the legend include claims of German space journeys to the Moon, Mars and near stars.


Nazi UFOs
and
Secret Bases at the South Pole


The year was 1945. Even as it became apparent that the tide of the war was turning in favor of the Allies, German scientists working for the Nazis still had a few tricks up their sleeves. Secret devices were being built in the labs and factories of the underground complexes in the
Harz Mountains and elsewhere.


Late in the war, Allied pilots began to see unusual lights and silvery globes flying at their wingtips.They nicknamed these foo fighters and kraut fireballs thinking they were some new secret weapon of the Nazis.The objects, however, never attacked an allied plane, they just flew near them.



These Feuerballs were unmanned, remote controlled devices whose main purpose was to jam the radar of the Allied planes and to confuse and intimidate them. They would have been great offensive weapons, but no satisfactory method of arming them was found in time. A larger, manned version, called the Kugelblitz, was being built and tested, but the war ended before it could put into service.


In 1938, Hitler had sent an expedition headed by Captain Alfred Richter to the part of
Antarctica just opposite the tip of South America to locate a site for a secret base, and by 1945 the base was completed. In the spring of 1945, when the fall of the Third Reich had become inevitable, the untested Kugelblitz, along with the engineers overseeing its construction, were loaded into a submarine, the U-977, and taken to this ultra-secret underground Nazi base. After delivering this cargo, the U-977 and those of the crew who did not wish to spend the rest of their lives in an underground base put in at Mar del Plata, Argentina on August 17, 1945.



The U-977 crew thought that they would get a friendly reception in
Argentina, but they were immediately turned over to the United States as prisoners of war. They were thoroughly interrogated several times by the Americans and the British before going through the normal prisoner of war process.


As a result of these interrogations, the
United States invaded Queen Maud Land in January 1947 to determine for sure whether or not there was a Nazi secret base there. Led by Admiral Richard E. Byrd, the force consisted of thirteen ships, two seaplane tenders, an aircraft carrier, twelve other aircraft, six helicopters, and a force of 4,000 men. The expedition was called Operation Highjump, and its cover mission was that of mapping the entire Antarctic coastline.


Byrd lost many men and several aircraft to the Nazis the first day. The expedition, which had been planned to last for several months, was cut short after a few weeks.


According to the newspaper Brisant, Byrd reportedly told a reporter later:

It was necessary for the
USA to take defensive actions against enemy air fighters which come from the polar regions....fighters that are able to fly from one pole to the other with incredible speed.


The
United States then withdrew from the Antarctic for several years, and UFOs began to be seen around the world in increasing numbers. Is Any of This True?


It is certainly true that the Nazis were working on secret weapons all through the war and that they had underground complexes in the
Harz Mountains and elsewhere. There was evidence that they planned to make their last stand, if necessary, in a huge underground complex in the Alps called the Alpine Redoubt. However, those plans never materialized and the complex was never finished.


It's also true that Allied pilots saw unusual lights and objects in the skies over
Europe and the Far East. However, while the Allies thought these were Nazi secret weapons, the German pilots saw them too and thought they were Allied secret weapons. No explanation for these foo fighters was ever found.


The Feuerball story is one of several regarding Nazi flying disks and it comes from the writings of
Renato Vesco.


Vesco's book Intercept UFO was released as a collaboration with David Hatcher Childress and re-titled Man-Made UFOs 1944-1994. Vesco was a member of the Italian Air Force during World War Two who became interested in UFOs and German secret weapons after the war. He claims to have obtained his information from British war documents.


His thesis of the purpose of foo fighters being to jam radar doesn't really pan out. There are no reports that radar jamming occurred when foo fighters were in the area. If the Nazis had actually had such craft, it seems more likely that they would have packed them full of explosives, flown them near an Allied plane, and then detonated them. However, flying such a craft at high altitudes and making the reported maneuvers of the objects by remote control would have been close to impossible with the technology available at the time.


Hitler may have sent an expedition to the Antarctic in 1938 and claimed part of
Queen Maud Land  for Germany as Neuschwabenland, but there's little documented information about such an expedition to be found. Nor is there any evidence that a secret base was ever built there. The area is claimed by Norway today.


There was certainly an Operation Highjump led by Admiral Richard E. Byrd in 1947. The expedition took over 70,000 aerial photographs of the Antarctic coastline. The numbers of ships, planes, and men given is correct, but it was hardly an invasion force. Just after the war ended, ships and planes were surplus. There was little else for them to be used for, so the navy was happy to send them to
Antarctica with Byrd. As for the expedition losing many men & planes, that's an exaggeration. One PBM flew too low, grazed the surface, and exploded. Three men died as a result, and the rest of the crew was rescued. Byrd, who had never lost any men on any of his expeditions, was so upset over the loss of life that he cut the expedition short.


Operation Highjump did discover an area free of ice that contained unusually colored "lakes", that they called an oasis. A sample of the lake water was obtained and on analysis it was found that the water was brackish, indicating that the "lakes" were connected to the sea. The color came from abundant algae growth. The press seized on this discovery before it was shown that the water was salty and the "oasis" was later touted as evidence for not only a secret base, but as evidence for an opening into a hollow interior of the Earth as well.


There's no evidence that Byrd ever actually made the statements attributed to him by the Brisant.


The U-977 did indeed dock at
Mar del Plata , Argentina on August 17, 1945, months after the war was over. The reason, while fascinating, was not because they carried Nazi UFOs and scientists to Antarctica. The real reason was that many of the crewmembers did not wish to surrender to the Allies in Germany. After secretly dropping off those that did, Captain Schäfer took his U-boat from Germany to Argentina, spending sixty days submerged during the voyage. Argentina was expected to be a safe haven for them. Due to the fact that the Russians captured Berlin and the remains of Hitler's corpse, some people in Allied intelligence thought he was still alive. Those skeptical of Hitler's death suspected Schäfer and U-977 of spiriting Hitler out of Germany, and that's why he was interrogated at such great length..

Also of interest are all those rumours about secret Allied developments of original German projects, Nazi underground bases and related stories, like Hitler's escape and mysterious U-Boats sighted after the end of WWII.

Over the years, there have been fragments of information concerning a ‘great secret’ which was allegedly in the possession of Nazi Germany during and prior to the Second World War.

These rumours have been consistent and widespread, which leads to the conclusion that there may be an element of truth in them.

In order to explain the UFO theory, it is first necessary to know a little of specific occult beliefs prevalent in
Europe, especially Germany, in the early part of this century.

Besides claims of would-be inventors and rumours, there are no original first-hand historical documents about the development of saucer-shaped aircrafts by the Germans. The supporters of the saucers' reality say that most documents and blueprints were destroyed by the Nazis before surrender or captured by the Allied and never released, due to their extreme strategic importance. Investigation for locating possible undisputable sources is still running.

FLYING SAUCERS - SECRET HISTORY

 

Some researchers have found, on diligent examination, that the V-7 stories tend to have originated post-WW2, and in fact post 1947, when American private pilot Kenneth Arnold reported his string of unidentified flying objects "skipping like saucers" through the air near Mt. Rainier, Washington, gaining recognition in the 1950s, when the popular fascination with flying saucers was growing in the US.



Hitler and the Third Reich led the world into a decade of terror in the first half of the 20th century that culminated in World War II. Technology played a greater part in that war than in past conflicts and the Germans developed an amazing array of secret weapons in a short time. Were flying discs part of the Luftwaffe arsenal? And, if so, was this secret looted and used by the Allied victors after the war?

Some of the German war-time technical advances are well known. The first military jet was the German Heinkel 178 which flew in 1939. In 1943 the Germans also deployed the only jet fighter to go into regular service during the war, the Messerschmitt 262. This German jet could easily overtake the fastest Allied aircraft. Only Hitler's misguided orders that the planes be outfitted as bombers, instead of defensive fighters, saved Allied aircraft from devastating casualties.

Cruise missiles, a staple of current advanced arsenals, were also first used by the Third Reich during the war. V-1 flying bombs were launched from German-held territories across the channel into England. The "buzz bombs," as they were sometimes called because of the sound of their impulse jet engines, could outrun most Allied aircraft making the V-1's almost impossible to stop. The V-1's weakness was its guidance system (a problem solved in modern cruise missiles by the use of computer-controlled radar). Because it couldn't hit a pinpoint target, the V-1 could only be used to cause random terror, not wipe out truly important military assets.

The V-2 rocket was the predecessor of the Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles that filled the nuclear arsenals of the Soviet Union and the United States during the Cold War. It traveled up to 225 miles at five times the speed of sound. A single hit could demolish a city block. During the war the V-2 killed 2724 civilians and injured another 6467. Like the V-1, though, it lacked a guidance system that would have allowed it to strike at important targets.


History of German Rocketry in World War II

The Germans even developed a rocket-powered fighter, the Me 163. Though it never was put into regular service, it was the first aircraft to fly faster than 600 miles an hour.

Is it possible that the list of secret weapons produced by Nazi Germany included flying saucers? Did they actually deploy disc shaped fighters or at least experiment with them?

Some of the earliest stories about German flying saucers date back to an inventor named Viktor Schauberger. Schauberger was born in Austria in 1885 and was considered by many to be a crackpot. Schauberger himself said:

They call me deranged. The hope is they are right...

Schauberger believed that machines could be designed better so that they would be "going with the flow of nature" rather than against it.

One of Schauberger's projects was to produce a flying machine, saucer shaped, that used a "liquid vortex propulsion" system. His theory was that "if water or air is rotated into a twisting form of oscillation, known as a 'colloidal,' a build-up of energy results, which, with immense power, can cause levitation."

According to stories Schauberger built several models, one of which was almost five feet in diameter and was powered by a 1/20 hp electric engine. Some reports indicated that one of the models actually flew. There are also reports that, according to letter Victor Schauberger wrote to a friend, a full-sized prototype of one of his designs was constructed using prison labor at the Mauthausen concentration camp. This craft flew on February 19th of 1945 near Prague and obtained an altitude of 45,000 feet in only 3 minutes. The letter goes on to say the prototype was destroyed by the Nazis before it could be captured by the Allies.

After the war Schauberger moved to the United States, where some contend he worked on secret projects for the U.S. government. He died in 1958, apparently claiming his ideas had been stolen.

Another German designer involved with the Nazi effort during the war was Rudolf Schriever. Schriever, along with some other engineers named Habermohl, Miethe and Bellanzo apparently came up with several disc-shaped aircraft designs that used more conventional power sources than those Schauberger envisioned. One of Schriever's drawings shows an egg-shaped cockpit surrounded by a rotating fan-like disc that provided the lift. A Miethe drawing depicts a smooth flat saucer with an elongated hump on its back for the cockpit. Both would have been powered by jet engines.

As with Schauberger, there were reports that some of these designs were actually built. The Schriever machine was said to have been tested in 1945 and to have reached an altitude of 12 kilometers in a little over three minutes. It had a top speed of 2000 kilometers an hour.

There is no real, solid evidence, though, that a test flight ever took place and Schriever himself, who relocated to the United States after the war, indicated that any prototypes of the craft were destroyed, before flying as the Germans abandoned their facilities in the face of advancing Allied troops.

Stories also persist that the Germans's also had developed small automatized flying discs.

The Feuerball and Kugelblitz stories seem to parallel tales of foo-fighters" told by Allied pilots during the war. Despite this it seems unlikely that Feuerballs and Kugelblitzs were ever actually built or flown. The "foo-fighters" observed were probably some purely natural phenomena. No Allied plane ever reported being attacked by a foo-fighter and it is likely that if the Germans had invented a device capable of tracking planes as well as the foo-fighters apparently did, they would have soon armed it with some effective weapon.

So were there really any German disc-shaped aircraft?


It seems likely that there was certainly some experimentation with the concept within the Reich. Disc-shaped aircraft have several advantages, including low stall speed and low drag, even at high speeds. The rounded shape can also lower the craft's radar profile making it "stealthy." For these reasons German designers did consider using disc shaped aircraft, as did the U.S.

 

The low stall/drag of the shape was particularly important to the Germans at the end of the war. Months of bombing had reduced German runways to rubble. A saucer shaped craft could have lifted off the ground like a vertical-takeoff-and landing (VTOL) aircraft without a runway at all.


It is certain that they produced some models or prototypes, though, it is unlikely that if these machines flew they obtained the outstanding climb and speed figures some stories suggest. These stories may be difficult to disprove, though, since in the chaos at the end of the War, many records were lost or destroyed. 

Rumors are likely to continue that the Nazis developed flying saucer technology that was then stolen by the United States and the Soviet Union after the war. This latter suggestion is not wholly without merit, since US and USSR rocketry development after WWII owed a lot to German scientists who were recruited to assist in the superpowers Cold War space programs through an operation known as "Paperclip." There are records, exposed by author Jim Wilson in a Popular Mechanics article in July 1997, that suggest that at least two brothers, Walter and Reimar Horten, were sought by the United States after the war because of their participation in German military saucer programs.

Some saucer stories about Germany developed after the War, rather than during it. In particular there is a book, UFOs: Nazi Secret Weapons? in which the author, Ernst Zündel, suggests Hitler escaped at the end of the war to establish a flying saucer base in Antarctica at the entrance of a hole that leads to a hollow "inner Earth."

Since science has pretty well established that the Earth isn't hollow, it seems these stories can be disregarded. As for the existence of  German WWII flying discs, though, it is a possibility that may never fully be disproved.


 

 

Stories of the scientific advances of the Third Reich have circulated for decades
KEVIN McCLURE explains that the flying saucer legend ain’t exactly rocket science

It’s much easier to dismiss an absurd claim that is fresh and new than one which has been around for a while and taken root. It is, for example, simple enough to assess the credibility of David Icke’s assertion that Dr Josef Mengele – seemingly after he died – used mind-control to make a young American woman go to Balmoral Castle and officiate at rituals where the Queen and Queen Mother turned into reptiles and devoured small children; or to judge whether, as ‘Sir’ Laurence Gardner tells us in an explanation on which his whole ‘grail bloodline’ theory depends, the otherwise unmentioned daughter of Joseph of Arimathea (in this version, the brother of Jesus Christ) popped over to Wales to marry and settle down with Bran the Blessed, a mythical god-figure who spent much of his life as a detached head (and who, even if we take the original myths as a guide, would have been well over 100 years old at the time of the marriage).


Dislodging established and much-repeated nonsense is much more difficult, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. And in cases where such nonsense tends to exaggerate or glorify the activities of the Nazis during World War II, I think we should try particularly hard. In that spirit of endeavour, let’s see what we can do about the very untrue story of Viktor Schauberger – builder of flying saucers. The detailed and ever-growing fiction of the Nazi UFO mythos tells us that the Nazis were so technically, creatively and scientifically brilliant that, had the war only lasted a few months longer, they would have won it by using their amazing flying saucers, which were so very nearly ready for combat when the Allied forces entered Czechoslovakia and Southern Germany.

There are two hurdles the mythos has always fought to overcome. Firstly, that there is no historical record that the characters said to have been involved in saucer development – figures like Schriever, Belluzzo, Habermohl, Miethe and Klein - ever had anything to with the development of ‘flying discs’. Only Giuseppe Belluzzo has any verifiable scientific background at all; Schriever was a delivery driver, and it is unclear whether Habermohl and Miethe even so much as existed as identifiable individuals.

Secondly, there is no historical evidence – physical or photographic – of the supposed flying discs. We are repeatedly told of craft of immense power, and sometimes immense size, defying all scientific parameters known before or since. Yet not so much as a bolt or a tachyon drive remains to verify their existence. There are just the oft-reproduced, fuzzy post-war photos taken by those who wished to convince us of saucer reality, but who usually succeeded only in demonstrating the unexplored potential of domestic containers and the art of close-up photography.

The mythos argument is that rather than being extraterrestrial in origin, the discs photographed between 1947 and 1955 were actually developed from captured Nazi blueprints, by captured Nazi scientists. Relocated to America, they chose to have their miracle craft chug unimpressively around the dusty back roads of the USA, sometimes landing, sometimes crashing, and sometimes – particularly the very small discs – utilising conveniently-placed string to hang from trees, swinging gently and photogenically in the wind. Not one claim of flying Nazi discs pre-dates 1949 and the increased
US media interest in reports of flying saucers.


Enter Schauberger

Once upon a time, in
Austria, there was a forester called Viktor Schauberger. He lived from 1885 to 1958, and in his long life he devised and worked on a variety of inventions. He had a keen and original interest in the motion and motive potential of water, and the most notable of his achievements were in the design and development of log flotation methods and flumes in the 1920s. Thereafter, he seems to have tried to develop his ideas towards turbines and cheap natural power and energy. There is little evidence that any of these later ideas ever reached fruition, and although his son and grandson have continued with some more theoretical aspects of his work, it seems that no repeatable demonstration of Schauberger’s supposed flight technology has ever taken place.

For those who want to further the cause of secret Nazi science, or to maintain the flying saucer mystery, or both, Viktor Schauberger has been a prayer answered. Not because he actually built flying discs for the Nazis, but because some round, bulbous inventions he probably worked on were photographed and, with a bit of airbrushing to add Luftwaffe insignia, they looked rather like the round, bulbous inventions that figured in 1950s ufology. That he left no physical or technical evidence of his supposed disc experiments, was at times somewhat confused about the facts (there is evidence that he spent some time in a psychiatric hospital), and kept a diary in a shorthand that was difficult even for his family to comprehend, could only help. He even had a long, impressive beard to suggest that he was a misunderstood genius. History was ripe for rewriting – and not just the once.


The Mythos Returns

The most recent phase of belief in the Nazi UFO mythos began in the last six years. Susan Michaels, in Sightings: UFOs (Fireside, 1997), reproduces a range of palpable fictions from unreliable sources, and introduces some freshly-minted nonsense. Possibly becoming confused by inconsistent, fictional accounts of a meeting with Hitler in 1933, she says:

Also in 1939, German physicist Victor Schauberger developed a design for a flying saucer using energy he claimed could be harnessed from the tonal vibrations, or ‘harmonics’, of the cosmos. As far-fetched as this theory seems, Schauberger’s research attracted the attention of Adolf Hitler, who offered to provide funds to build Schauberger’s own anti-gravity saucer. But Schauberger, who was a deeply committed pacifist, turned Hitler down.


The following year, UK aviation writer and photographer Bill Rose wrote an article (“UFO sightings – Why you can blame Adolf Hitler”) in the popular science magazine Focus (October 1998). After, apparently, four years of research, he concluded that:

The father of the German disc programme was Rudolf Schriever, a Luftwaffe aeronautical engineer assigned to Heinkel in 1940... a full-sized piloted version, the V2, first flew in 1943 with Schriever at the controls. Thirty feet [9m] in diameter, the V2 had a fixed central cabin around which a ring with adjustable vanes rotated to provide thrust in both the horizontal and vertical planes... Early in 1944, Schriever’s top-secret programme was moved to
Czechoslovakia... Schriever was joined by a number of leading aeronautical engineers... Another addition was the Austrian scientist Victor Schauberger, who just before his death in 1958, claimed to have worked on a highly classified US disc programme in Texas
.

Rose seems to be the first to have suggested that Schauberger actually worked together with the four other ‘engineers’ who, according to the mythos, built flying saucers, but even Rose’s remarkable ‘sources’ pale in comparison to those apparently available to Gary Hyland, author of Blue Fires (Headline, 2001), who says of Schauberger:

The first test-flight of the machine was reportedly amazingly successful (it apparently shot through the roof of the laboratory and had to be recovered some distance away)... [Schauberger] developed his ideas further, to the point where a full-sized, though unmanned flying disc prototype that used his new engine apparently flew under radio control... At the end of the war, the American forces got to Leonstein ahead of the Russians and found Schauberger and his team of experts. After letting the members of his team leave after a thorough interrogation, the Americans held Schauberger in protective custody for six months; it would seem that they knew exactly what he had been up to and wanted to prevent other nations, as well as renegade Nazis, from continuing to use his services.


The history of a mythology

The ‘Nazi UFO’ mythos has itself had three distinct phases of life, with long fallow periods between. The first was in the early 1950s, when a few individuals, none of them connected with any post-war rocket or aviation programme in
Russia, the USA or anywhere else, claimed to be at least partly responsible for the saucer sightings of the period. Schauberger – still alive at the time – didn’t get a mention at that stage, and made no claim of his own.


Then, around 1975, Canadian Ernst Zündel, also known as Christof Friedrich and notorious for his pro-active and well-publicised scepticism about the reality of the Holocaust, published (as Mattern Friedrich) the book UFO – Nazi Secret Weapon? Amid questions like “Is Hitler Still Alive?” and “Did the Nazis have the Atom Bomb?” he set out a range of wild speculations about lost Nazi technology and, for the first time to my knowledge, introduced a number of the key elements concerning Schauberger’s supposed involvement. Zündel writes:

Schauberger did experiments early in 1940-41 in Vienna and his 10 foot (3m) diameter models were so successful that on the very first tests they took off vertically at such surprising speeds that one model shot through the 24-foot (7.3m) high hangar ceiling. After this ‘success’, Schauberger’s experiments received ‘Vordringlichkeitsstufe’ – high priority – and he was given funds and facilities as well as help. His aides included Czech engineers who worked at the concentration camp at Mauthausen on some parts of the Schauberger flying saucers. It is largely through these people that the story leaked out.

Zündel also provided an account of Schauberger’s later history and death. Although Schauberger actually died at home in 1958, Zündel’s version has it that:

Viktor Schauberger lived for some years in the
United States after the war where he was reported to be working on UFO projects. His articles were greatly discussed and then one day in Chicago he just vanished. His battered body was found and as to who killed Schauberger or why has never been discovered. One version has it that gangsters tried to beat his revolution-ising secrets out of him and accidentally killed him.

Zündel published the first drawings of what he referred to as the ‘electro-magnetically-powered Flying Hats’.

In the next year, 1976, a biography of sorts appeared (Living Water, Gateway Books, 1997), written by Olof Alexandersson, a Swedish ‘electrical engineer and archive conservationist’. While admitting that “the information for the basis of this book is fragile”, he managed, from unlisted sources, to add substantially to the mythos:

After a while Schauberger received his call-up. It was now 1943, and even older men were being drafted. He was eventually appointed the commandant of a parachute company in
Italy, but after a short stay, orders came from Himmler that he should present himself at the SS college at Vienna-Rosenhügel. When he arrived, he was taken to the concentration camp at Mauthausen, where he was to contact the SS Standartenführer Zeireis, who told him he had a personal greeting from Himmler. We have considered your scientific research and think there is something in it. You can now either choose to take charge of a scientific team of technicians and physicists from among the prisoners, to develop machines utilising the energy you have discovered, or you will be hanged.’


Schauberger understandably chose the first option (insisting that his helpers must no longer be regarded as prisoners) and so an intensive period of study began. After the SS college, where the research was taking place, was bombed, Schauberger and his team were transferred to Leonstein, near Linz. The project they initiated there was a ‘flying saucer’ powered by a ‘trout turbine’.

One of the problems faced by the Nazi ufologists is to explain the complete absence of palpable evidence. There is no period of history more thoroughly examined than 1939-1945, and no subject more closely examined than the Nazis, and more particularly, the SS. Had there been any reality in the claims for the construction and testing (or more) of high-speed flying disc technology by the Third Reich during that period, then we would have every reason to expect that it would have been discovered, reported, and analysed by writers and researchers far more competent than those referred to above. Yet it never has been.

Nonetheless, there is a recurrent and developing counter-cultural argument that insists these extraordinary events actually took place. It is a theory that has sold millions of books and videos, and it continues to fuel a belief that, given just a few more months, the true genius of the Nazis, the fanaticism of the SS, and the inspiration of the Führer would have won through, and the Allies – no, not just the Soviet Union, but all the Allies – would have been defeated.

While I’m happy to be challenged by solid evidence, I’ve found no reason to believe that Viktor Schauberger knew anything of this. I think he died before it was made up. He never built a flying disc, let alone one that flew using some unknown and unprecedented method of propulsion. He wasn’t sought out by Hitler or the SS, didn’t choose slave workers from Mauthausen to assist him, and wasn’t held by the Americans after the war because of his technical knowledge and achievements.

If the Russians burned his flat down, I doubt that they even knew whose flat it was. The only truth seems to be that he visited the USA in the 1950s, leaving behind him components of two experimental water turbines; the objects that Zündel (who adorned them with Nazi insignia) said flew.

          

The 'Balkenkreuz is NOT a Nazi Symbol!


I have been told, all too often, not to use the term ‘Nazi UFOs’, because this is really about secret and suppressed technology. It just happens that the Germans were clever enough to invent it, and even if Ernst Zündel manufactured or exaggerated some of the facts, then he only did it for the money.

On ‘The Zündelsite’, in the ‘Zündelsite Zgram’ for 26 December 1998, the matter is explained in his own words. He says of his publications and his radio appearances:

I realised I had discovered a potent publicity tool with this topic – which would get me lots of free time on radio and TV shows, to expose other, more ‘politically incorrect’ topics to vast audiences... I slipped in lots and lots of ‘Revisions of History’... I talked about the disinfecting procedures to protect the valuable worker inmates in the Dora-Mittelwerke rocket underground assembly factories... I mentioned the medical facilities in the camps, the calorie count of the meals served, etc... The UFO books themselves also had very important politically otherwise impossible-to-tell messages embedded within them, such as the National-Socialist Party program and Hitler’s analysis of the Jewish question...

All that – and I made a fine bundle of money! The money I made from the UFO books I invested in publishing the booklets Die Auschwitz-Lüge - a translation of The Auschwitz Lie, Dr Austin App’s booklet The Six Million Swindle and A Straight Look at the Third Reich; and, of course, later, 'Did Six Million Really Die?' by Richard Harwood.


If Zündel’s own account is to be believed – and I think it probably is – then his fictions about Nazi UFOs have funded the distribution of Holocaust revisionist material around a substantial part of the world. So, at the end of the day, there’s more at stake here than just tall tales and technological fantasies; there would appear to be a good ethical argument to stop repeating such fictions and to put the ‘Nazi UFO’ mythos to rest once and for all.

Zündel's real beliefs about UFOs are not clear. Frank Miele summarized it well in his article “Giving the Devil his Due” concerning Zündel's book UFOs: Nazi Secret Weapons?:

The book argued that what are usually described as flying saucers from outer space are actually Nazi secret weapons, still being launched from a hole in the ice in Antarctica. This may be why he jokingly told me...that I was dealing with the "real lunatic fringe." In a later phone conversation, Zündel told me that the UFO book was in fact a ploy.

I realized that North Americans were not interested in being educated. They want to be entertained. The book was for fun. With a picture of the Führer on the cover and flying saucers coming out of Antarctica it was a chance to get on radio and TV talk shows. For about 15 minutes of an hour program I'd talk about that esoteric stuff. Then I would start talking about all those Jewish scientists in concentration camps, working on these secret weapons. And that was my chance to talk about what I wanted to talk about.

"In that case," I asked him, "do you still stand by what you wrote in the UFO book?" "Look," he replied, "it has a question mark at the end of the title."

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