The Third Reich's Flying Saucers
The Third Reich's Flying Saucers
There are recurring tales of the development of disc-shaped aircraft by the German Reich during World War 2. Although some researchers have found, on diligent examination, that the stories tend to have originated post-WW2, and in fact post 1947, when American private pilot Kenneth Arnold reported his string of unidentified flying objects "skipping like saucers" through the air near Mt. Ranier, Washington, enthusiasts are not deterred.
The accounts given between 1950 and 1957 by Schriever, Belluzzo (or Bellonzo) and Miethe, three of the four engineers supposedly responsible for the "Schriever, Habermohl, Miethe and Bellonzo Flying Disc" , and who supposedly came up with several disc-shaped aircraft designs that used jet engines, are said not to support each other. Each alleged participant gives different information, individually taking the lead in being responsible for what was achieved, and none of them state that they worked with the other three. Essentially, all claim to have been responsible for an assortment of different disc programmes, at a variety of different locations, testing and flying their different discs.
One of Schriever's drawings shows an egg-shaped cockpit surrounded by a rotating fan-like disc that provided the lift; a Miethe drawing depicts a smooth, flat saucer with an elongated hump on its back for the cockpit and a pair of exhausts pointing rearwards.

The Schriever machine was said to have been tested in 1945 and to have reached an altitude of 12 kilometers in a little over three minutes, achieving a top speed of 2000 kilometers an hour. Evidence supporting this claim is at the best rather sparse; and Schriever himself, who moved to the United States after the war, indicated that prototypes of the craft were destroyed before flying as the Germans abandoned their facilities ahead of the Allied advance.
Others interpret Schriever as saying that the craft did not progress beyond blueprint stage, and the planned speed and height figures were subsequently misquoted as ones that had actually been achieved.
The history of German "flying saucers" in World War 2 harks back to designers such as Alexander Lippisch, who supposedly tested circular-wing aircraft designs in 1940-41 wind tunnels at Göttingen, although without obtaining spectacular results.
Even before that, Professor Heinrich Focke was particularly interested in emerging helicopter and autogyro technologies and was involved in the design and production of a number of advanced aircraft designs during the war. The creation of the jet engine encouraged him to design a power system which evolved into what we know today as the "turbo-shaft" engine.
In 1939 he patented a saucer-type aircraft with enclosed twin rotors:
The exhaust nozzle forked in two at the end of the engine and ended in two auxiliary combustion chambers located on the trailing edge of the wing. When fuel was added these combustion chambers they would act as afterburners to provide horizontal propulsion to Fockes design. The control at low speed was achieved by alternately varying the power from each auxiliary combustion chamber.
Still earlier, in the late '30s, another German was also designing circular aircraft. His name was Arthur Sack, a farmer from Machern (near
The public presentation of Sack's flying saucer took place during the celebration of the First National Contest for Air Models With Combustion Motors, held on the 27 and 28 of June, 1939 in Leipzig-Mockau (
The competition seems to have been a complete debacle, no model performing correctly over a short, fixed course and many not even taking off, Sack's among them. Sack had to throw it into the air himself. His disc managed to fly 100 meters.
Here the story takes a dramatic turn, for among the competition's spectators was General-Air Minister Udet. The claim is that he was deeply impressed by the concept and became something of a supporter of the military development of disc-shaped aircraft, apparently overlooking the pathetic performance of the competition models. He promised Sack that he would "smooth the road for further research."
Arthur Sack built some additional "flying saucer" models prior to beginning the construction of a manned aircraft during World War 2 at the MIMO plant (Mitteldeutsche Motorwerke),
The prototype AS6 was equipped with an Argus 10cc, 140 HP engine, and a 6.40 meter circular wing. Its weight was estimated at some 750-800 kgs.
Flight testing began in April, 1944, at Brandis. On the first attempt the rudder and brake both failed. After various efforts were made to correct the faults, further takeoffs were attempted. The pilot found the rudder very heavy - an experience which repeated itself when, post-war, the first flight took place of the US Chance Vought XF5U disc-shaped aircraft, which the A-6 was said to resemble in principle.
Several subsequent attempts, with accompanying equipment breakage, achieved no better than a few short bounds into the air, and then the fog of war obscures any accounts of further development; although in autumn 1944 a flying saucer was sighted over the Neubiderg aerodrome, near Munich. Perhaps the AS6 achieved a brief success.
In its February 1989 issue, the German magazine Flugzeug published the following report of a "flying saucer" sighting. A German official recorded that, at the Prag-Gbell aerodrome in August/September 1943, he and a good number of flying companions saw inside a hangar "a disk some 5-6 meters in diameter. Its body is relatively large at the center. Underneath, it has four tall, thin legs. Color: aluminum. Height: almost as tall as a man. Thickness: some 30 - 40 cm., with a rim of external rods, perhaps square orifices."
The upper part of the body ... was flat and rounded... Along with my friends, I saw the device emerge from the hangar. It was then that we heard the roar of the engines, we saw the external side of the disk begin to rotate, and the vehicle began moving slowly and in a straight line toward the southern end of the field. It then rose almost 1 meter into the air. After moving around some 300 meters at that altitude, it stopped again. Its landing was rather rough... Later on, the 'thing' took off again, managing to reach the end of the aerodrome this time.
Flugzeug's editors treated the report cautiously, if only because they saw it as "antithetical to those described by Schriever, Habermohl, Miethe, and Bellonzo with their vast basic dimensions."
Perhaps we can gain a perspective on the validity of the Schriever, Habermohl, Miethe, and Bellonzo disc by recognizing that the details first emerged in 1950, in a period when the US, then the world, began taking an interest in outer space and, perhaps not surprisingly, interpreting any strange aerial phenomenon in terms of space ships or flying saucers. Rudolf Schreiever came forward, and claimed that he had worked with a small team at facilities near
According to Der Spiegel magazine dated
A former Luftwaffe captain and aircraft designer, Rudolf Schriever, who says engineers throughout the world experimented in the early 1940s with 'flying saucers' is willing to build one for the
There is certainly no need to attribute the development of
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We are left with the sparse evidence that Sack, an aero modeler, built a clumsy flying disc and supposedly worked on a full-scale saucer-shaped aircraft, also attributed to Dr. Lippisch, which according to accounts managed a few awkward hops; an anecdotal record of an accidental sighting of attempts to fly an equally clumsy disc-shaped craft; and the conflicting allegations surrounding designs by Schriever, Habermohl, Miethe, and Bellonzo.
Focke's innovative thinking may have produced a number of advanced aircraft, on paper and in reality, but no flying disc seems to have been among them. Whatever projects to explore disc-shaped aircraft the Germans undertook in World War 2, the evidence does not point to achievement of any particularly outstanding results. Significantly, perhaps, the German disc stories gained recognition in the 1950s, when the popular fascination with flying saucers was growing in the
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Nazi UFOs
Nazi Germany claimed the territory of New Swabia, sent an expedition there in 1938, and planned others.
Some UFO sightings during World War II, particularly those known as Foo Fighters, were thought to be enemy aircraft.
Early references
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By June the following year, he had built and test-flown a working model of his design, and work immediately began on a full-size fifteen-foot version. In mid-1944, Schriever was transferred to the BMW plant near Together, it is claimed, they built an even larger, piloted version of the disc, featuring a domed pilot's cabin sitting at the centre of a circular set of multiple wings driven by a turbine engine mounted on the disc's vertical axis. The German disc programme allegedly went under the title 'Projekt Saucer'. According to the military historian Major Rudolf Lusar, Schriever's disc consisted of "a wide-surface ring which rotated around a fixed, cupola-shaped cockpit". The ring contained "adjustable wing-discs which could be brought into appropriate position for the take-off or horizontal flight". The Model 3 flying disc is claimed to have had a diameter of 138 feet and a height of 105 feet. According to Schriever, the finished disc was ready for test-flying early in 1944, but was destroyed by its builders to prevent it from falling into the hands of the advancing Allies. According to the story, Schriever and his colleagues fled as the BMW plant was taken by Czechoslovakian patriots. In spite of Schriever's claim, Renato Vesco, who studied aeronautical engineering at the German Institute for Aerial Development and during the war was sent to work at Fiat's underground installation at While Vesco concedes that the hard evidence for a German flying-disc programme is "very tenuous" (non-existant is more accurate), he notes that "the senior official of a 1945 British technical mission revealed that he had discovered German plans for 'entirely new and deadly developments in air warfare' ". Vesco claimed that these plans must obviously have gone beyond normal jet aircraft designs, as both sides already had jet-powered aircraft in production and operational service by the end of the war. Moreover, before Rudolf Schriever died some fifteen years after the war he had become convinced that the large numbers of post-war UFO sightings were evidence that his designs had been built and developed. On According to Vesco, the Austrian inventor Viktor Schauberger, after being kidnapped by the Nazis, designed a number of disc-shaped aircraft for the Third Reich between 1938 and 1945. The saucers were powered by what Schauberger called 'liquid vortex propulsion' which he explained as follows: 'If water or air is rotated into a twisting form of oscillation known as "colloidal", a build-up of energy results, which, with immense power, can cause levitation.' It would be interesting to know the extent of the truth of these claims, because both scientific facts and principles seem to lie in ruins if what Schauberger says about Nazi UFOs is even half true. Besides the claims of would-be inventors, wild rumours, and the claims of out-and-out crack-pots, there are few original first-hand historical documents about the development of saucer-shaped aircraft by the Nazis, though some did exist - though not as advanced as some would like to believe. The supporters of the saucers' reality say that most but not all documents and blueprints were destroyed by the Nazis before surrender or captured by the Allied and never released, due to their extreme strategic importance. Investigation for locating possible undisputable sources is still running. The reality of the "Nazi UFOs" has been highly controversial to say the least Though it is undisputable that the Nazi's were indeed working on many advanced rocket and jet designs by the wars end, including some "flying discs" such as the Sack AS-6 and the Focke-Wulf VTOL Project), no hard historical evidence about the existence of the highly advanced technology mentioned above has been presented so far. |